Status Reports ECRIT WG
Report September 2007
Date: 26th September 2007
Upcoming IETF Meeting
The next ECRIT (IETF 70) meeting is scheduled for Dec 2-7, Vancouver B.C.
See:
http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/70-IETF.html
Other information:
There is a new Web-based tool that can be used now to submit a new
draft, see:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04384.html
The meeting minutes from the last IETF69 are here:
http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07jul/minutes/ecrit.txt
In addition, there is some progress on some of the wg related documents.
Document Status
In the RFC Editor's Queue
Requirements for Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies
Draft is moving through the "RFC Ed Queue" - seems close to being
published:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-requirements-13.txt
A Uniform Resource Name (URN) for Services
Draft has moved to the "RFC Ed Queue" as of 8/21/07:
http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/draft/service/draft-ietf-ecrit-service-urn-07.txt
Security Threats and Requirements for Emergency Call Marking and Mapping
The new (-05) Draft version has moved to the "RFC Ed Queue" as of
9/12/07.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-security-threats-05.txt
PROTO Documents
The document shepherding process is described in RFC 4858.
LoST: A Location-to-Service Translation Protocol
PROTO writeup has been sent to the Area Directors and the IESG to
complete the work:
http://www.nabble.com/PROTO-write-up-for-draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-06.txt-t4511617.html
Location-to-URL Mapping Architecture and Framework
PROTO writeup has been sent to the Area Directors and the IESG to
complete work.
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04382.html
A Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) based Location-to-Service Translation Protocol (LoST) Discovery Procedure
PROTO writeup has been sent to the Area Directors and the IESG to
complete work.
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04379.html
Other WG Drafts
The (two) remaining ECRIT WG Drafts, below, have been updated.
Framework for Emergency Calling using Internet Multimedia
New Draft version published as of 9/19/07. Needs additional WG review.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-framework-03.txt
Best Current Practice for Communications Services in support of Emergency Calling
New Draft version published as of 9/19/07. Needs additional WG review.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-02.txt
Individual Drafts
Location Hiding: Problem Statement and Requirements
An updated draft has been produced, see:
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-location-hiding-requirements-01.txt
Last action on this was: "Initiate discussion after the main WG items
have been progressed."
Action: ECRIT chairs to determine level of effort, since other items now
progressed.
Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices
Initial draft version has been submitted.
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-00.txt
There is a IEEE liaison msg. which references the above draft, see:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04361.html
Emergency Call Marking
From last report, it was stated: "The initially assumed solution,
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/sip/draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loose-route-01.txt,
was not accepted at the IETF meeting."
Some discussion has taken place entitled "UA Loose Routing", see:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04308.html
And "call marking", see:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04310.html
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04319.html
The agreed approach is described in this mail:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/current/msg20511.html
Brian indicated that the resolution can also be found in the latest
phone BCP draft version.
A related topic that is still under discussion is the question on how to
prevent fraud in the context of location hiding. See below:
Proxy Authentication of the Emergency Status of SIP Calls
From last report, it was stated,
"A lot of the discussions in the last few weeks focused on
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-barnes-ecrit-auth-00.txt
Action Item: Summary needs to be compiled."
Action: Need to determine next steps.
Overview of the IETF Emergency Services Architecture
Restated from the last report:
"The following document gives an overview of the emergency services
architecture:
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-tschofenig-ecrit-architecture-overview-00.txt
It is meant to be read by members from other SDOs and regulators."
DSL Forum Documents
The following referenced document were made available from the DSL
Forum. An initial review was made by Hannes Tschofenig, see:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04320.html
Additional comments have been logged to the list, see:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/mail3.html
Alignment between IETF and 3GPP Emergency Services Architecture
From the last report,
"[Hannes]... has the action item to schedule a conference
call within the IETF ECRIT WG and subsequently between IETF ECRIT
and the 3GPP to discuss a possible alignment."
3rd SDO Emergency Services Workshop
The next workshop (ESW03-07) is scheduled for a 3 day meeting (October
30st -
November 1st) in Brussels/Belgium (3 day mtg.).
Meeting information can be found here:
http://www.emergency-services-coordination.info/2007Nov/
A first version of the agenda is also available:
https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/es-coordination/2007-August/000050.html
Report August 2007
Date: 16th August 2007
ECRIT WG Status Update
During the last month there was the IETF meeting. The meeting minutes are here:
http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07jul/minutes/ecrit.txt
Still, there is some progress on the documents.
At the IETF#69 meeting we also had a meeting on authority-to-citizen communication.
Information can be found here:
http://www.tschofenig.com/twiki/bin/view/EmergencyServices/EarlyWarningBarBOF
Requirements for Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies
Draft is in "RFC Ed Queue".
A Uniform Resource Name (URN) for Services
A new draft version has been submitted based on received IESG comments:
http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/draft/service/draft-ietf-ecrit-service-urn-07.txt
Henning posted a list of changes:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04200.html
Security Threats and Requirements for Emergency Call Marking and Mapping
The Gen-ART review comments need to be addressed. Revised ID is needed.
Will be provided within a week.
A WGLC was started again based on the WGLC received during the first WGLC. The recent draft update reflected the comments during the previous WGLC:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04186.html
See
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04188.html
IPR claims have been disclosed:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04189.html
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04190.html
LoST Mapping Architecture
A WGLC has been started recently. See
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04194.html
DHCP-based LoST Discovery
A WGLC for the DHCP-based
LoST discovery procedure based on the -02 version of the draft. See
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04195.html
This is also the 2nd WGLC.
Phone BCP & Framework
Richard Barnes, Alexander Mayrhofer, Barbara Stark, and James Winterbottom reviewed the documents.
Thanks you.
Steve Norrey's review is still pending.
Based on the review comments updated documents will be submitted.
Location Hiding
No progress on this particular item during the last month. Here is the draft:
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-location-hiding-requirements-00.txt
Action Item: Initiate discussion after the main WG items have been progressed.
Unauthenticated Emergency Services
Initial draft version is available and will be submitted in the next few days.
Emergency Call Marking
The initially assumed solution
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/sip/draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loose-route-01.txt
was not accepted at the IETF meeting.
Action Item: Initiate discussion
Proxy Authentication of the Emergency Status of SIP Calls
A lot of the discussions in the last few weeks focused on
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-barnes-ecrit-auth-00.txt
Action Item: Summary needs to be compiled.
Overview of the IETF Emergency Services Architecture
The following document gives an overview of the emergency services architecture:
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-tschofenig-ecrit-architecture-overview-00.txt
It is meant to be read by members from other SDOs and regulators.
Alignment betwetween IETF and 3GPP Emergency Services Architecture
I got the action item to schedule a conference call within the IETF ECRIT WG and subsequently between IETF ECRIT and the 3GPP to discuss a possible alignment.
3rd SDO Emergency Services Workshop
The next workshop is scheduled for 3 days (October 30st - November 1st) in Brussels/Belgium.
Information can be found here:
http://www.emergency-services-coordination.info/2007Nov/
A first version of the agenda is also available:
https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/es-coordination/2007-August/000050.html
- Tuesday, October 30:
- Tutorials about IETF, 3GPP and NENA architectures
- u2010 meeting the standards
- Wednesday, October 31:
- Policy Panel
- Status Updates by various SDOs
- Thursday, November 1:
- Status Updates (con't)
- Authority-to-Citizen Communication (Requirements, What's available now)
Report July 2007
Date: 11th July 2007
Working Group Items
During the WGLC we have received a number of comments. Then, we delayed the completion of the work because of the location hiding discussions.
Now, you can find the latest version of the document at:
http://www.tschofenig.com/svn/draft-ietf-ecrit-lost/draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-06.txt
We have also updated the DHCP-based
LoST discovery draft (based on the comments we received from the DHC working group). The document can be found here:
http://www.tschofenig.com/svn/draft-tschofenig-dhc-lost-discovery/draft-ietf-ecrit-dhc-lost-discovery-02.txt
Framework, Phone BCP, Mapping Architecture
These two documents have not made too much progress.
A new versions of the ECRIT framework draft with minor changes is, however, available:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-framework-02
A new version with minor changes of the mapping architecture draft is also available:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-mapping-arch-02
Requirements, Service URN and Security Threats
The requirements document has made it to the RFC Editor's Queue.
The Service URN draft
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-service-urn is IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed state.
The Ecrit Security Threats draft
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-security-threats is in IESG Evaluation::AD Followup state.
Non-Working Group Items
Location Hiding
After the unsuccessful attempt to quickly resolve the aspect of location hiding we decided to do the work independently.
A requirements draft was published:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-location-hiding-requirements-00.txt
A number of solution aspects have been captured at:
http://www.tschofenig.com/twiki/bin/view/EmergencyServices/LocationHiding
Unauthenticated Network Access
No progress has been made on this item.
Ecrit Architecture Overview
A new draft with a high-level overview of the IETF emergency services architecture has been published:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tschofenig-ecrit-architecture-overview-00.txt
Purpose: Introduce the IETF emergency services architecture to non-emergency services experts
Focus of the document: Sharing of responsibilities between the different players in an emergency services environment.
Proxy Authentication of the Emergency Status of SIP Calls
Richard Barnes submitted a draft and is going to introduce it to the working group within the next few days:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-barnes-ecrit-auth-00.txt
Liaisons and Interworking with other SDOs
3GPP
During the IETF 3GPP phone conference call Hannes agreed to schedule a meeting between IETF and 3GPP emergency services experts in order to evaluate how to work on a harmonized architecture for emergency services.
OMA
The OMA has decided to start work on SIP and location. It needs to be investigated what the impacts for the ECRIT working group are. See
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04058.html
Report June 2007
Date: 2nd June 2007
We have been sleeping now for a month. Now it is time to start our work again.
There are essentially the following major items to talk about:
Working Group Items
The requirements draft, the service URN draft and the security threats draft are in IESG processing and doing fine.
LoST is essentially done (unless we want to add a new location profile to provide the location hiding aspect).
The phone BCP, mapping architecture and the framework documents are impacted by the ongoing architecture discussions. We could finish these documents based on our current understanding of the architecture and work on documents covering the other aspects later (also since extensions are potentially outside the current charter).
Call for consensus regarding marking of emergency calls may be necessary.
Location Hiding
This aspect has caused a lot of discussion and we have seen many, many solution proposals. At the end the group focused on a small number of them that can be found here:
http://www.tschofenig.com/twiki/bin/view/EmergencyServices/LocationHiding
To restart the discussion Henning and myself have written a short draft that can be found here:
http://www.tschofenig.com/twiki/pub/EmergencyServices/LocationHiding/draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-lost-in-held-00.txt
We intentially did not publish the draft for the following reasons:
- Many working group members have very actively contributed to the discussions and it would be unfair to publish the document with our names on it only.
- There are many solutions and many variations of the solutions possible. We would like to avoid 15+ draft submissions
to the working group since this would only slow down the progress.
Given that more discussions are necessary I would suggest to finish
LoST as is and then deal with this aspect as an extension. After the discussions progress sufficiently the chairs will pick some draft authors to compile a write-up of the
discussion.
Unauthenticated Network Access
This topic has not seen enough attention from the group. I have sent two mails about it in the past to raise a discussion. It seems that many SDOs develop solutions for the unauthenticated network access case, including IEEE, 3GPP, 3GPP2 and TISPAN.
We believe we should also have a story for it. Since it will take some time to discuss these aspects it might be reasonable to decouple them from the current framework and phone BCP discussion. It is also not sure whether the regulator will demand support for it.
Liaisons and Interworking with other SDOs
3GPP
It would be good to figure out how to align our work with the 3GPP emergency architecture work, if possible.
IEEE
We need reviewers for their documents:
http://www.tschofenig.com/twiki/bin/view/EmergencyServices/ReviewIEEEDocuments
A discussion about the open issues from the IETF ECRIT / IEEE Information Sharing Event @ IETF#68 is also needed. I will ping Stephen McCann about this issue.
ATIS ESIF
We haven't responded to the ATIS ESIF document liaison request.
The last two items need to be done in coorperation with the GEOPRIV working group.
Next SDO Emergency Services Workshop
Planning for the next workshop will start soon. Status updates will be sent to this mailing list
https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/es-coordination.
Report 6th May 2007
WG documents
Draft update necessary with respect to location profiles. It seems to be necessary to support a location profile that can express polygons.
ACTION ITEM: Hannes to start draft update asap.
2) Phone BCP
The document requires more reviews and more work. For example, text from SIP Location Conveyance and from PIDF-LO profile has been moved to this document.
A couple of expert reviews are also pending.
ACTION ITEM: Hannes to ensure that reviews are provided.
3) Framework
The document also requires more work given that it has not seen enough review. The location hiding discussion needs to be reflected in the document as well.
After another draft update the chairs will solicit further review requests.
A couple of expert reviews are also pending.
ACTION ITEM: Hannes to ensure that reviews are provided.
4) DHCP-based LoST discovery
Review comments from the DHC group have been provided and another WGLC (together with the DHC group) is necessary.
Here is my review request and 2 responses:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dhcwg/current/msg07234.html
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg03735.html
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dhcwg/current/msg07236.html
ACTION ITEM: Marc to initiate a WGLC after the draft update is available.
5) Mapping Architecture
This document seems fairly complete and passed WGLC already. Unfortunately, we haven't seen a lot of review comments. 2 expert reviews are also missing.
ACTION ITEM: Marc to find a few reviewers.
Review of IEEE documents
IEEE 802.11k review complete. More reviewers for other documents solicited. A webpage for the reviews is available here:
http://www.tschofenig.com/twiki/bin/view/EmergencyServices/ReviewIEEEDocuments
ACTION ITEM: Hannes to check with Robert Sparks regarding sharing the workload.
Hiding (Partial) Locations Discussion
After a long discussion we have a couple of solution proposals:
http://www.tschofenig.com/twiki/bin/view/EmergencyServices/LocationHiding
We need to decide for a particular approach before we update our documents.
ACTION ITEM: Hannes to make a call for consensus
Follow-Up regarding "IETF ECRIT / IEEE Information Sharing Event @ IETF#68"
ACTION ITEM: Hannes to initiate a discussion
ATIS ESIF Document review
Document review and response to liaison request still not done.
ACTION ITEM: Hannes & Marc & Robert to initiate some actions.
Charter Update
The charter update of February still hasn't been provided. In the meanwhile it is pretty obsolete since another charter update is required.
ACTION ITEM: Hannes to submit a new charter update.
Follow-Up "Interact with the IAB"
The IAB Tech Chat on Emergency Services presentation took place on the 28th February 2007. See slides here:
http://www.tschofenig.com/twiki/pub/EmergencyServices/IetfEcritRoadMap/Emergency-Services.ppt
Not quite clear what needs to be done.
ACTION ITEM: Hannes to figure out what has to be done.
Report 10th Jan 2007
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg03023.html
Report 6th Aug 2006
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg02365.html
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HannesTschofenig - 02 Jun 2007